laura-amanda-dinsmore-kendra-morrison_full_length nov 13,
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Amanda:
Hey guys, welcome back to the podcast. I am Amanda.
Laura:
I'm Laura.
Kendra:
And I'm Kendra. And today...
Amanda:
Oh, we have a surprise!
Kendra:
It's not April Fool's Day, but I thought I'd pull a fast one on my partner. So I was just kidding. Today, I thought it'd be fun to interview Laura and Amanda and myself too. But basically just, they don't know what questions I'm going to be asking, but you know, we just love to share with you so you get to know us better and, you know, sometimes have a little bit of a, a fun time just with the surprise of not knowing what questions I'm going to ask. So. Here's a chance to get to know the awesome women that I know every day.
Amanda:
Anxiety rising. What the heck?
Kendra:
This is putting all of our coaching principles ready. Go.
Amanda:
All right.
Kendra:
All right. So, okay. First question. I'll go easy. What is one of your favorite books?
Amanda:
Well one, oh my gosh, I, what, not a single book, but I have strange go down rabbit holes sometimes, and in high school I got into Arthurian legend quite a bit. No idea why, and then it turns out the University of Oklahoma had an entire My English credit could be on Arthurian legend. So, yeah, I haven't revisited that in quite a long time, but It was Something in the Mist was the name of the book that got me obsessed with that.
Come back to me. I'll tell you what it was. But Arthurian legend in general was an obsession for a while. Other than that, self help books. Like, I cannot stop. I cannot stop reading that. You might notice by the podcasts that we do. It's like, what have you read that's trash? Nothing, because I cannot stop reading self help books.
Laura:
I love that. Yeah, me too with the self help books. Yeah, even since college self help books, but in terms of like fiction, my, probably my favorite story is Pride and Prejudice. Yes. It is. I don't know. I know like, like many women love this book, but I just love, I love the story and I love the movie too, which is.
The any version that like the 5 hour long version. That's the 1 that I love. It's just this just a great study on human behavior and thought. And I just, I love it, but I also love I love the Harry Potter series. That was. Probably when I read all of those and I'm not one to reread books a whole lot, but I, I just ate those up like dessert.
I love them so much. And just, there's a lot of human behavior and thought study in those too. So anyway, those, those two, Pride and Prejudice, like that's, I do like Pride and Prejudice, I can revisit a lot of times. My kids will tell you, I make, even my boys, we watch that show together a lot.
Amanda:
Okay, I found it.
It's the Mists of Avalon, and it was instead of the characters centering around Lancelot and Arthur, it, it centered around the women, Gwynevere and Morgan and all of those people. So, and actually my professor in, University that was teaching the class actually hated the book with everything in his being.
So I don't know, but I liked it.
Kendra:
Interesting. Mine's The Hiding Place. I love The Hiding Place.
Laura:
Oh, I love that book too.
Kendra:
My favorite. Oh, so good.
Amanda:
You know what, you know what else I like is The Glass Castle. The real story. I just thought that was fascinating. There's so many like that are just okay. Here we go.
Kendra:
Moving on. Where did you go on your honeymoon?
Amanda:
Well, actually, we got engaged in residency. And at the time, there was not such a thing as like, considering myself or and David was in residency too. So we went for a weekend. Well, we went, we went and got married in Vegas quickly and then on a weekend that we had off and then we came back and then some other time that we lined up and had the same weekend we went to Cancun because that's the only time that we had and like literally we would get off the plane and walk directly into the Hospital, I would not like looking back, I'm like, my God, no wonder I had some issues with burnout because I wouldn't even take off for my wedding.
Laura:
I know, yeah, yeah, but that's how we did it. Yeah, we went to we got married right after 2nd year classes wrapped up. And so we went to a place called Little Gasparilla Island. It's on the Gulf Coast in Florida.
And it was really cool because you could only get to it by boat. And the little house that we rented had, came with a boat. So we rode the boat over and there you, there was no cars on the island, just golf carts. It was so fun and so idyllic, but Jeff was stressing so much about step two that we actually left a day early.
I was like, really? So again, it worked. Priorities of medical students. Yeah. Yeah.
Amanda:
That like, don't don't do as we did. No, no, I would have some words for myself, like, back in the day, but he's, he has retreaded that many times.
Kendra:
Yeah, we same, we got married the summer. Well, sort of like, whenever we had a little bit of a break between 1st and 2nd year of residency and like, managed to like, shove all the possible vacation days we had together into 1 week and literally did most of my and we went away thinking we would elope because like, I didn't have time for anything else.
And like 60 of our family members came with us to the outer banks, but I did most of my planning like the week that we went there and we got married on a Thursday. So like, I was planning all week, got married Thursday and we did like a B& B on Ocracoke Island, which just sounds like sort of like yours, Elle, where you just have to get there by boat.
And there's only golf carts and bikes and literally we came back the next morning. Cause like people were leaving cause we waited till the end of that week, you know, to get married. Cause I did most of my planning that week. So it's great. Yeah. Then we were on the plane right back and walked right back in the hospital.
Okay. So what is your favorite podcast? What's your favorite podcast?
Laura:
Well, I think that's no secret for me, but aside from ours, you mean.
Yeah. Well, it's the waking up to narcissism podcast. That's no surprise. How about you guys?
Amanda:
I like a bunch. If I have tons of time, I like Peter Etieh's The Drive. It's very technical, but it's all about, he's a longevity physician. That is, that is not one that I go to for entertainment. That is purely for self help.
I like Mel Robbins quite a bit. I like the life coach school podcast. Brooke Castillo has some, a lot of insights that I like. And one that I like just even when I'm not working with overindulging in food is I love listening to Corinne trap crab tree. She curses like a sailor. It is not for anyone who is going to get slightly offended by F bombs, and all the others.
But I just, she's so authentic and she's so passionate about helping her people. She lost a hundred pounds and kept it off and she's no nonsense. She actually reminds me of a coach version of like Dolly Parton. She has Dolly Parton in the background of her like coaching sessions. I just pretty much love anything that Corrine says.
Kendra:
Yeah, I do. I love our podcast, of course, is number one, but I flip back and forth. I've talked about Dr. Caroline Leaf a ton. Oh, yeah. I love her podcast. And I also, and it's Mind Your Mental Mess. So that's, that fits me perfectly. And then I'll flip back between Kelly Casperson's You Are Not Broken, because I just find a lot of her information at the stage that I am in my life is very self advocate but also helps me to take care of patients like better.
She's just really trying to right a bunch of wrongs with the Women's Health Initiative and she's a part of NAMS and just that pre peri and post menopausal season of life that women go through and she's also a coach so she brings in the whole person like your thoughts are what's gonna, you know, Dictate how you get through this, but also vaginal estrogen and lube are the 2 things you need.
So now all my patients I see, are you on vaginal estrogen? And do you use lube? Lube, lube, lube.
Amanda:
And we're in a freestanding ER, so you can imagine the patients are like, what?
Kendra:
Yep. Yep. I have saved many a life. I'm just telling you. I know.
Amanda:
Well, for real, I can't tell you how many little ladies that had UTIs that I had no knowledge of this and now has changed my practice for sure.
Kendra:
Yeah, I love it. Okay, favorite date night restaurant. Where do you guys like to go for date night?
Amanda:
Lately, Springfield, Missouri is strange in that we have a whole lot of really good local restaurants. And Retro Metro is one that we've currently, but I also live west of town, so just because of proximity, I like Retro Metro and Ocean Zen.
Everything's closed on, like, Sundays and Mondays, so, or Sundays, especially. So, Ocean's End happens to be open on a Sunday, if date night is Sunday. And we have just a phenomenal amount of sushi restaurants here that are really good. So, any of those. They're family owned. Anything by the Jalili family, too, is good.
Laura:
Yeah I don't have any particular one that, you know, we have several that we go to but. There's an Italian one that we really like named Amerigo. I like, my main thing is, I want some place that has a booth. I know that's crazy, but. I get, I don't know, I get cold if I'm not sitting in a booth, if I'm just sitting in a chair, it just feels cozier.
I just like, I like to be able to have, I like to be able to have a booth.
Kendra:
Awesome. Yeah, I agree with A, we live in the same town. There's a new kind of sushi, Japanese Roboto just opened right in our parking lot of our shop.
Amanda:
I know, I know, I love that place. It's great. It is fantastic.
Kendra:
And it's also family owned by the same people. They have a Kai, which is a sushi restaurant and. Haruno. Haruno, which is sushi. So it's a Japanese family. Yeah. And they are fantastic. I love Mexican. So unfortunately though, for some reason, Springfield cannot sustain Mexican restaurants. And so my two favorites have been and gone.
So now I'm on the hunt. Hopefully someone will open something up.
Amanda:
I was shocked Taco Bueno couldn't make it here.
I mean it.
Kendra:
What the heck is a staple in Oklahoma? I don't know why Bueno can't come. I don't know. Or even Taco Cabana. Taco Cabana is open until 2 a. m. people. I mean this is, this should be, we're a college town that has eight colleges in our town. Eight. And Taco Cabana would survive. Next is where did you go on your last vacation?
Amanda:
Well, I just got back from Vegas. All of my age group is turning 50. So, so just got back from that 50th vacation. And then we've interviewed Arpita DePalma on, on the podcast. She is turning 50 and we're going to Miraval, which is a much different flavor of vacation.
That I'm excited to try. I have never been there. I did find out I'm too old for Vegas. Like, I just wanted to go to bed by 10. So, it was kind of a waste for me. I was like, I tried really hard but I was sleepy. I needed to be like at a show or something, like just watching games on TV and, and then like betting on the line and stuff that didn't.
I wasn't particularly interested. And so then I got kind of sleepy, so not, not what we were expecting in Vegas.
Laura:
I would, I went to Hawaii. That's where I go most of the time, especially the last couple of years, but. I like traveling other places. That's just the way it's worked out, but it is my favorite place of all the places in the world. The big island of Hawaii.
Kendra:
Awesome. Yeah. We, I was trying to think of my last vacation. I guess it was Outer Banks this summer. We went for a week again and actually stayed in the house. We got married at which is kind of cool. They had done some renovation and it was back open for rent because I've been married forever and so it was a cute place, but it just really kind of allowed this time.
What I thought was so special about it was we're back almost 20 years later. Same house. You know, we, we didn't get married in the house. But we had the reception because there was a pool and a big deck and so we had the reception up by the house. But anyways, well, it's so interesting about being there was every morning I went out and, you know, walked along the beach.
And what was interesting is like, I just enjoyed the present moment because I thought, man, you know, 18 years ago, when I was here, I was like, I didn't even, it was like a new place. I mean, I couldn't even remember, like, What what happened when like as we were driving down we've been to Outer Banks several times But as we were driving down and then we went to Ocracoke Island and honestly, it felt like a brand new place I was just like man just to think back what a special time it was to get married and like virtually have almost no recollection.
It's just kind of sad. And just to be able to have that opportunity to be in the moment and just really savor, because we didn't, you know, it was just a week, a beach house, very laid back, a bunch of family went with us. We didn't really plan anything every day. We wanted everyone just to do their own thing.
And so I really, really took advantage of the time that I had to be present in the moment and savor the sights, sounds, smells. So that was really special. I really enjoyed that vacation. So, all right. What is your favorite self care activity? What do you do to really revive, restore, revitalize?
Amanda:
Well, you all know this, that I am fond of my old lady baths at night.
have super dry hair, so I don't always need to wash it. So I have fallen in the habit of scalding hot baths that pretty much are like a hot tub and the level of heat that it provides but like, no one's allowed to talk to me. It is just some moments of quiet and then whatever I want to think about, or sometimes I meditate, sometimes I scroll on social media, sometimes I do nothing and just sit there, but it is time that I am unreachable, which is good for me.
Laura:
That is good. I don't know if I have one in particular that I like more than the rest, but I, I don't do the bath when I'm traveling, but I do it every, every time I come home from work pretty much, and I throw some bleach in there, like bleach it off, whatever.
Amanda:
This is not medical advice, by the way, just to reiterate that.
Laura:
There's actually research.
Amanda:
Talk with your doctor before you throw bleach in your water.
Laura:
If you're wondering, it's like a quarter cup. Yeah.
Amanda:
Oh, Lord. Yeah, here we go.
Laura:
Yeah, no, but that I do that, I have started getting into meditating really, I really love that. I, I do meditation, I do prayer. I do, uh, sacred text study.
I, I have started, I've gotten back into being an exerciser for the past few months, so that was, that's very good. I enjoy that. And I think of listening to podcasts too, as a self care activity, just learning new things. I love that too. I don't know. I don't know if there's one in particular. Oh, maybe I do.
Here's the biggest one. It's super long hugs. Like when I hug my family members for, you know, good solid 20 seconds and feel that awesome oxytocin release and I think it's dopamine too that gets released.
Amanda:
Oxytocin, I think.
Laura:
Yeah. Well, oxytocin, it is oxytocin, but I think it does release dopamine too. Yeah.
It's just like. It could feel your blood pressure coming down and I don't know. I love that. That's probably my favorite.
Amanda:
Okay, I have to revise my answer because now that I'm thinking about it, the most important thing is that I am starting to create a life that I don't need to take a vacation from which means a lot of saying no, a lot of not doing the things that are ex that have nothing to do with my priorities, but might have been expectations that I would have tried to fulfill before.
It is taking the time to myself that I need. It is, like, last year I didn't do Christmas cards, because you know why? I just... Didn't want to I mean just stuff like that is like I want to my vacations I am excited to get home now because I don't need a vacation from the life that I am building. I still have a lot of work to do but that is more than a bath for sure has made a much bigger difference in my life.
Laura:
I love that
Kendra:
Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, I would say I agree with my partners. The thing that I love about this journey of like, you know, burnout to recovery to becoming a coach to doing this that we love to do now every day. It is just that building a life that I don't have to escape from it's the relief of the pressure of saying yes if it doesn't align with my values, then it's a hard no, and, you know, just like we've talked about the podcast, the essentialist, like, my journey now becoming an essentialist is a priority and I love that.
The discovery of just these expectations that really I put on myself. Nobody else had and now seeing a little bit now, because we've been in this for a while. I'm seeing a little bit. You know of some decisions my husband's making or my kids and I'm like you really love to do that You know, it's just really that authenticity like oh, that's what you really love and this is what brings you joy and this is what's making you happy and all of that together is just so refreshing and to not have to be something that you aren't or to say yes to something you don't believe in and then, you know, what I love is my daily self care is I, you know, do a devotion.
I pray and I read the Bible every day. And so that is my time that I spend for myself. You know, sometimes it's five minutes and sometimes I get 30 minutes. I love it, but really, that is the time when I reflect, and it's part of my gratitude, my daily gratitude practice as well. But that, that reflection time really allows me to be present and notice these things about even just the people that I live with, my husband and my kids.
Like, I reflect, and I'm like, oh wow, like I heard them make this choice, or I heard, saw them do this, and it is really aligning with what they love, what they have joy. And I love to see it in my kids, especially because I'm like, oh, there's a chance for them. They have a chance to not get the title of burnout survivor.
No, I'm just kidding. But basically I just love that kind of in, in the background, maybe. They are, they are also starting to realize that I don't have to do anything that, you know, I haven't had a passion for or that I don't want to pour my whole self into because I love it. The reward on doing the things that you love is so much greater than the stuff that you feel like you have to do.
And which is another point is that making decisions now from a place of, like, I get to choose and when I hear myself saying, I have to fill in the blank and I'm not ready, I'm not ready. And so that has been such an amazing place to be like, when I feel myself saying, I have to blah, or I have to blah, you know, I must, whatever, it's not from a place of agency or choice.
And so I just have to wait till I'm ready or I just get more information. And once I'm equipped with more information, then I make the choice. So. I love it. I love it. I love it. This has been such an amazing time. I love it. I love that. I had, I got to put my partners on the spot.
It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
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